(June 19, 2013 at 3:31 pm)John V Wrote: By undergoing pain:
And you can experience the feeling of pain without self-awareness how?
Quote:I haven't seen chapter and verse of god ordering rape.
Numerous times. Here's one example where Moses speaks on your god's behalf and is never corrected by your god:
Quote:Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
And then there's the regulations on how to rape your sex slaves (remember that regulation = tacit approval).
Quote:Deut 21:10-14 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.
In English:
If you capture a hot babe in your war with your enemies and you want to ravish her, you have to give her a full month to mourn her family which you put to the sword (see Deut 20:13-14). After that point, you can rape her. We'll slap a "marriage" label on it to try to sanitize the rape but since her consent isn't requested or required, it's still rape. If you don't enjoy raping her, you have to let her go. You can't sell her.
I suppose that was considered "progressive" back in that day and age but as divine wisdom from a god who should have known better, I'm not impressed.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist