If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?

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@ pineapple
If he rebels and refuses your toy, he chooses to rebel against good.

No, the toy isn't good. It's purpose is to make my dog happy, that's why I bought it, if he doesn't like it, the toy failed to serve its purpose. There isn't good and bad involved here. Just a transaction.

Rebellion against good is bad. There is only good. There are not several (fully) goods. You can't bypass the choice to be good with an alternative good, or your original good can't have been good at all. (talking about ultimate goods, as God supposedly is)

I'm sure that you think that there's reason to be good. If we took out the dogma and talked about this minus all of the religious baggage, I wonder if we'd have much disagreement.

Personally I think anyone is evil for not choosing vanilla

You're making a lot of assertions here. Rebellion isn't always completely bad or completely good. There are multiple "goods", if my friend is doing an all nighter for an exam, I can bring her food (one good) or stay up with her to make sure she doesn't fall asleep (another good). There're even gradations of good, I can do both (better than either one alone). What is an example of this "ultimate good"?

And I think we'd disagree quite a lot on how to treat my dog.