(June 22, 2013 at 2:11 am)fr0d0 Wrote: 1. God is just
2. The bible has nothing immoral in it committed by God
Those are the facts as they stand. Until someone can disprove them.
Bliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind assertions!
Quote:Is secular morality (as I've explained) correct? I believe so. On the grounds that people lack knowledge. Does that secular morality apply to God? No. His knowledge is not limited.
There is no correlation between amount of knowledge and purity of morals. God can know everything and still be malicious and evil.
Quote:Freedom to choose: so because God knows how your life pans out, he's taking away the freedom you would have had in the choices you would have made after you died.
Then, you had no freedom to choose in the first place. This introduces a paradox: if God kills you because you were going to commit a sin, this means you are never able to commit that sin. Yet, the punishment remains in effect.
Quote:You're talking about Gods decision here to justly terminate your life right? You made choices to oppose good that would justify that. In your natural lifetime you wouldn't do anything to change that. Your choices to carry on doing evil are denied you, justly.
You aren't free to defy the laws of nature. In Christianity, you aren't free to escape justice.
Paging John Calvin. John Calvin, you have an appointment with a disciple.
Quote:Gardeners destroy a whole garden if there is a disease bad enough to threaten other gardens.
Gardeners are not omnipotent, omniscient beings who could save all of the gardens without any destruction. If they were, any act of destruction would be malicious because it would be unnecessary.
Quote:To children the world is mostly black and white. Stuff is either right or wrong. This seems to be the reasoning you're asking us to adopt here. As we mature we appreciate the shades of grey. I'm always up for a raunchy read. Joke!
God says all sins deserve death, so everything is wrong, and God designed it that way on purpose. Or, more accurately, the savages who created this nonsense didn't think it through very well.