RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
June 23, 2013 at 12:27 pm
Then lets go back to when your god supposedly created all that is good. Apparently it was possible for adam and eve to li ve with the animals on earth and all was hunkie dorie. But that tree, man. The tree of life and the tree of knowledge which he put right there and forbade those two beings to eat from. He gave them curiousity and he put a tree there knowing they'd eat it. In my eyes he set them up to fail and then punished them for doing what he wanted in the first place. He already had adam who went on long walks with him and loved him, god had love in Adam without needing to give him the ability to hate. And what about the tree of life? He had the ability to give us a good life without pain or suffering or death. Even if we ate the knowledge, he didn't have to give us lives of suffering pain and toil. Those didn't come with the fruit, they came with gods decree and banishment. So pretty much god gave the dog two bones said don't eat the one then kicks the dog out on the street in the rain for eating the bone he put there knowing the dog wouldn't be able to resist.
Also frodo I don't get why you believe one must absolutely have the ability to both love and hate in order to love, when adam had one without the other?
Also frodo I don't get why you believe one must absolutely have the ability to both love and hate in order to love, when adam had one without the other?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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