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Mind = Brain?
RE: Mind = Brain?
(December 23, 2009 at 8:20 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote:
(December 8, 2009 at 1:41 am)theVOID Wrote: Me, Well everyone who knows me here should be able to guess, for all else I'm on the Mind = Brain bandwagon because i see no function of the mind that cannot be explained by the brain.
Then please explain to me how neurons firing in the brain constitute a mathematical thought, like say a simple one that everyone encounters at school, the Pythagorean theorem.

I'm not well versed in Neurology so don't hold what i'm about to say with any level of certainty, but it was my understanding that there are two specific circuits in the brain that represent numbers in two different ways, #1 defines numbers with a combination of variables and gives them a name this allows the brain to store x number of potential combinations allowing the brain to deal with large numbers - the numbers in this circuit are whole numbers and decimals, are always defined in the same unique way and is directly linked to our sense of scale and context. #2 is more of a pattern seeking circuit and is used to estimate answers, rounding of numbers and establishing relationships between numbers.

Reaching any conclusion in mathematics requires that circuit 1 has the numbers you require and circuit 2 understands what relationship between the numbers you wish to seek.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...N28876.DTL

An interesting insight into mathematics in the brain is the comparison between Chinese and English people and how they use different areas of the brain for certain parts of the process - the English methodology is largely addition based (reflecting our structure of words and combinations) while the Chinese methodology is focused more on the appearance of the numbers visually.

http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/003550.html

If you disagree with the aforementioned then do you want to explain how a non-physical (non brain) process is supposed to do mathematics? What does it use as variables if not electrical signals?
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Messages In This Thread
Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 1:41 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Tiberius - December 8, 2009 at 1:47 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 2:06 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 8, 2009 at 3:56 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 4:03 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 8, 2009 at 4:56 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 5:28 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 8, 2009 at 5:31 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 8, 2009 at 5:45 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Eilonnwy - December 8, 2009 at 10:42 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by littlegrimlin1 - December 9, 2009 at 12:12 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Amphora - December 9, 2009 at 3:41 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 1:25 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 1:30 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 1:50 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 1:51 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 2:01 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 2:32 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 10, 2009 at 8:20 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 12:19 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 12, 2009 at 5:26 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 2:47 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 2:58 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 3:49 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 4:04 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 4:31 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 4:32 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 4:34 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 10, 2009 at 4:38 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Violet - December 10, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 11, 2009 at 7:56 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 12, 2009 at 6:52 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 12, 2009 at 11:42 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 18, 2009 at 1:38 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 12, 2009 at 7:53 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 13, 2009 at 5:54 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by downbeatplumb - December 12, 2009 at 2:24 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Tiberius - December 12, 2009 at 6:58 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Amphora - December 13, 2009 at 1:12 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 7:11 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 13, 2009 at 8:17 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 9:33 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 13, 2009 at 9:41 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 10:48 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 13, 2009 at 2:48 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 13, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 19, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 19, 2009 at 8:09 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 20, 2009 at 10:39 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 20, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 20, 2009 at 4:05 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by solarwave - December 19, 2009 at 5:47 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 20, 2009 at 7:26 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 20, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 3:20 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 21, 2009 at 8:02 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 8:35 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 21, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 9:55 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 8:43 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Zhalentine - December 21, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 21, 2009 at 8:45 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by leo-rcc - December 21, 2009 at 9:05 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 8:56 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 4:31 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 4:46 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 4:49 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 5:00 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 6:08 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by fr0d0 - December 21, 2009 at 7:18 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 7:33 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 22, 2009 at 11:22 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 12:05 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 22, 2009 at 2:27 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 2:42 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 22, 2009 at 2:32 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 22, 2009 at 2:40 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 22, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by leo-rcc - December 23, 2009 at 5:21 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 22, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 3:24 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 22, 2009 at 3:09 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 22, 2009 at 3:25 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 3:27 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 22, 2009 at 3:29 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 3:32 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 22, 2009 at 6:08 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 6:12 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 22, 2009 at 6:20 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 22, 2009 at 6:25 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 23, 2009 at 7:08 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 23, 2009 at 7:49 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 23, 2009 at 7:50 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 23, 2009 at 8:05 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Edwardo Piet - December 23, 2009 at 8:06 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 23, 2009 at 8:58 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 23, 2009 at 8:20 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 23, 2009 at 9:00 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 24, 2009 at 6:06 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 24, 2009 at 7:16 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 24, 2009 at 8:17 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 24, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 24, 2009 at 6:37 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Amphora - December 24, 2009 at 6:38 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 24, 2009 at 6:42 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Amphora - December 24, 2009 at 6:54 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 24, 2009 at 7:02 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 25, 2009 at 9:07 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 25, 2009 at 6:52 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 26, 2009 at 10:19 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 27, 2009 at 5:40 am
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Amphora - December 26, 2009 at 10:41 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 26, 2009 at 10:43 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 28, 2009 at 12:19 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by theVOID - December 28, 2009 at 12:22 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 28, 2009 at 12:25 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by binny - December 28, 2009 at 12:23 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Rhizomorph13 - December 28, 2009 at 1:09 pm
RE: Mind = Brain? - by Purple Rabbit - December 28, 2009 at 1:30 pm

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