Atheism and morality

[The Grand Nudger]

What do you mean 'and'?? If you believe X exists then X exists if and only if your belief that X exists is TRUE.

Oh come now, whether or not x exists is not dependent on your beliefs being true or false. Too easy. "And" as in, fine, call morality a hallucination if that's what you would like to do, and? You're flirting with an argument from consequences...and here's the truth of the matter...I couldn't care less about arguments from consequence.

Morality doesn't necessarily exist just because moral beliefs exist. MOrality only exists if the object of those beliefs exists. Why can't you grasp this?

Perhaps because there's nothing to grasp?

I can't make it any simpler. If you can't grasp it then there's really nothing more I can do. One can't have a meaningful discussion of metaethics with those incapable of grasping certain distinctions.

Then leave the explanation of whatever you;re trying to communicate to those that can. I've heard it said, that if you cannot explain something so simply that anyone can grasp it easily - then you don;t understand the subject well enough yourself.

So try this..stop blaming the recipient for your failure to communicate a message, eh? If you have something to say that isn't getting through, find some other way to say it.