(July 4, 2013 at 6:02 pm)Inigo Wrote:(July 4, 2013 at 5:48 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Yes, the failure is on everyone else JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING YOU *SOB and not the piss-poor way you have been explaining yourself.
Well, he understands - or seems to - that beliefs always have objects (things they are 'about'). And he understands that a belief cannot have itself as an object. So, what a belief is about, and the belief itself, are different. This much he seems - seems - to grasp. So he gets one star. But, inexplicably, he can't then grasp that this means moral beliefs must be about something- they must have an object. And that their object is, well, morality. And that this means that morality and the belief are different. This he does not seem capable of grasping. I can only conclude that he is either some kind of cretin or he does not like where grasping it would lead.
I think he just can't comprehend what this "moral belief" thing that you bring to the table is.
You present "moral beliefs" as something self-evident.... it isn't.
