RE: If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?
July 6, 2013 at 7:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2013 at 8:00 pm by fr0d0.)
(July 6, 2013 at 7:33 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:(July 6, 2013 at 6:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I didn't say that you couldn't have compassion Missy.
Giving 'everything' to someone might be inappropriate and insensitive. Your generosity to me: saying you'd die for me, whilst endearing, might also be construed as a bit too much considering that you don't know me very well. It might display a weakness in yourself of being over trusting. It's not always loving to throw yourself away on people. To truly love (give love out) you have to be confident in your own love status. Does that make sense?
I am overtrusting, everyone will tell you that. Even me. I had to learn there's a limit to how much of yourself to give and that limit is when it becomes detrimental to your everyday life. I still give too much. I know I do and I still do. Not because I value myself less than others or because I am a martyr. Plain and simply put: this world is a cold place. I like to warm it up because I feel like the repurcussions of doing so outweigh the price by far. Humanity as a whole is selfish, so I end up going the extreme opposite way just to balance things out a little. Still not a good reason, I know. But, without light how are we going to see where we are going?
Yah so the over trusting is an illogical step. This is what my faith gives me: why that step is logical. You seem to concur
(July 6, 2013 at 7:33 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:fr0d0 Wrote:God dying for us gets rid of our problem of imperfection. We can face God like we're equal in innocence to him. We can have confidence to love ourselves without any reservations, and then give love. Hell yes this sacrifice is very important.
To whom or what is the sacrifice being made?
In order for there to be a winner, there must be a loser though fr0d0. In order for you to go to heaven for obeying, I must go to hell for disobeying. Eternally. Eternally is kind of a big deal, you know?
The sacrifice is to God on man's behalf.
You go against love as long as you rationalise hate to be your best course of action. We're all somewhere along that path. Love is life, hate is death.
(July 6, 2013 at 7:33 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:fr0d0 Wrote:I take the bible as authoritative, and I trust it to be true. I understand it to be infallible, but don't close my mind to the possibility that it can't be improved upon.
So if someone comes forth claiming to be God's representative, and can perform 'miracles', you will welcome him with open arms?
If he satisfies testing of course!
Miracles and saint hood are over rated
