(July 9, 2013 at 6:46 am)Inigo Wrote:(July 9, 2013 at 4:50 am)pocaracas Wrote: Yep... that's because they're the same thing,.... you've created an artificial subjective distinction just so you can argue a god in there...
How can they be the same thing? How can morality be composed of beliefs? beliefs about what? Only a collection of beliefs is composed of beliefs. Anyway, I'm tired of arguing with people like you, you're not actually interested in the argument or addressing it.
Tell you what, why not just get out the old dictionary and play the pointless semantics game instead? That's what most of you prefer to proper debate.
Here, I'll get you going by telling you about how I use various terms and you can then get a dictionary - which is just a record of how morons use a word - and tell me I'm wrong and that all I'm doing is defining a god into existence, thus demonstrating your total inability to properly engage in a debate.
Here we go then......first, 'atheism'. I take atheism to be 'true' if there are no gods of any kind, and false if there are any gods (thor, Zeus, you name it). Ooo, that's got you hot under the collar hasn't it?? Yessss. You prefer an incoherent definition, that way you insulate your position against any possible refutation as one cannot attack fog.
I use 'atheist'.....wait for it.....to refer to someone who believes atheism (see above) is 'true'.
I use 'theism' to mean someone the view that a very specific kind of god exists, namely one that created the universe, is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly morally good.
Some of you will literally shit yourself at that. I hope so anyway. I hope you're sat there in shitty underwear with big veins popping out all over your neck and forehead as you start pounding away at your keyboard to tell me how silly I am and how Mr Dictionary is cross with me and will come and spank my little arse.
OK,.... that was worth it! So much LOL!
You should try for some stand up comedy.
But really... morality is just the set of morals, or since you're so fond of the expression, morality is the set of "moral beliefs"...
So.... moral beliefs (plural) equals morality.
You ask "beliefs about what?"... I don't know... you're the one who says that what everyone else calls morals are "moral beliefs". You're the one who invented this biased nomenclature. I, and others, have just been trying to make you see that the nomenclature is a bit faulty.
In the meantime, you keep calling us idiots and stupids and other such expletives, while we laugh our asses out.
As long as everyone is happy, I guess no harm is done!