RE: Do We Own?
July 20, 2013 at 6:32 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2013 at 6:32 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 20, 2013 at 6:24 pm)genkaus Wrote: The same problem would apply in priority use model. After all, you can't expect to have use rights to everything......right, it's a wash.
Quote:Its not. Because ownership is a basic principle within contract law. Therefore, any principles within contract law pursuant to ownership would not be applicable.It's not necessary in the way we're invoking it to contract law though. In lue of having ownership rights you simply have a TOS on the property. Well delineated and well defined.
Quote:Because it is assumed that it was originally government property and thus only government would be able issue or curtail rights associated with it. Since, under priority usage, the concept of property doesn't apply all forms of usage and therefore all rights pursuant to that usage would automatically be valid.So rights you don't have even after having bought said property? All rights persuant to that usage doesn't follow from anything I;ve said - or anything you've said genk. Something has been left unspoken and assumed.
Quote:Right now, the government is deemed the ultimate owner-answerable to we the people, of course.
Quote:and therefore the ultimate authority as to the usage of the natural resource.-and so..ultimately the authority is "we the people".
Quote:So, it can grant or refuse permission regarding its use by issuing logging rights. Under priority use, there is no ultimate authority to declare what is or isn't allowed (or if you say there is, then what is the legal basis for that authority?)The same authority as now, the same basis as now in effect (thought not in every principle). I'd probably impose stricter regulations of just what sort of authority government had...but it's again free for discussion.
Quote:By default, all forms of usage are allowed. Therefore, logging rights automatically become a part of it.By default, allowed/not allowed is a meaningless concept. "If there were no authority then no claim could be said to have authority". Another empty truth. Fortunately priority use is compatible with our current "authority" in any case.
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