Have you seen the new government ad?

[Aractus]

What is the point of have quotes of my post if you just ignore what I have written and stick to what you have said in your blog and not adding anything new.
Here are the main points I would like you to address if you are going to reply to me:-
* So what are you replacing it with(mandatory detention)?

Off-shore processing that doesn't include it - where the asylum seekers can live in the community, not in detention, in PNG or Malaysia, or Indonesia, or wherever, while we process their claims. We have legal obligations to process their claims, and to grant asylum to refugees. We have regional resettlement programs in place for bringing in people from camps, and we should extend that same program to Indonesia, Malaysia, PNG. It is deplorable that we hold genuine refugees in detention for 2-3 years before granting asylum.

* Scrapping(mandatory detention) will also not do anything to reduce boat numbers.

No, but it reduces the cost dramatically, and allows that money to be freed up to be used by other targeted programs that can be made to benefit people more.

* Totally ignored my number 2 reply, but if you want number 2 to be about queue jumping(avoid what you were talking about as usual), fine. This new policy of the government will also stop queue jumpers to Australia.

I don't believe so. I believe it will act as a deterrent. I will also point out to you that while most boats come from Indonesian ports, not all of them do, and every single one of them carries genuine refugees on board. The refugee convention, which you can read here prohibits us from settling people permanently against their will in a country like PNG in a variety of situations. For instance Article 33 Paragraph 1:

• No Contracting State shall expel or return (“refouler”) a refugee in any manner whatsoever to the frontiers of territories where his life or freedom would be threatened on account of his race, religion, nationality, member-ship of a particular social group or political opinion.

And what about Article 31 Paraghraph 1:

• The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.

Just those two paragraphs alone should show you that this "solution" is in clear violation of international law. And you should know how I feel about violating international laws - I've said many times what my opinion on the USA and their history of torture is.

* I did a quick search about Indonesian policy of refugees and asylum seekers and I think you will find that they have detention centres as well.
I think you will have to do more research next time when you think you have "better solutions".

That's a matter for Indonesian policy.

* How are you going to turn boats around to port when Indonesian will not accept it. Boat people will force the issue by destroying boats and putting people lives at risk as has been done in the past. This is a coalition policy which you have said you are against. Make up your mind.

Indonesia doesn't have to accept it. We're well within legal rights to return fishing boats to the ports they left from. We're well within legal rights to close our ports too. Turning boats back to port sends a clear message, and it is one thing that can be done.

The ads are in Indonesian papers as well as far as I am aware. I would not be surprised by ads on the internet as well. I heard on the radio that there are indications that the new policy is working. So the information must be getting through.

The policy will work as a deterrent. But the policy itself is in clear violation of the refugee convention and in clear violation of international law. AFAIK the government spent $2.5 million advertising in Australian newspapers and on Australian radios, and that cost does not include the overseas campaign.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uMsi3cQFBI

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3808536.htm