RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
July 23, 2013 at 1:50 am
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2013 at 1:52 am by pineapplebunnybounce.)
(July 23, 2013 at 1:38 am)Undeceived Wrote:So you do good things because you're grateful of the ability to do good things? Like I said, atheists don't need to feel grateful to do good things. Personally I don't like it when others suffer or have a bad day, so if it's within my power i'd help them out. That in turn helps me out, because we live in a society. But that's not my motivation to do good things, i like to do good things because it's evolutionarily selected that humans like to do good things. I'm just another product of evolution.(July 22, 2013 at 1:13 pm)Tonus Wrote: I find that most religions appeal to this part of our nature as well, offering a (very desirable) reward for following certain rules of behavior and offering a (terrifyingly horrible) punishment for refusing to follow those rules.
So you respond by denying that selflessness exists. Thanks for aiding my point. Either you worship yourself and serve yourself. Or you worship God and serve Him and all His creation. God is the life-giver. Of course I am going to gravitate toward the Master who gives me life. Not because I'm selfish, but because without the Master I would be incapable of acting selflessly. He gives me the fuel to love. "God is love" (1 John 4:8) "We love because he first loved us." (1 John 4:19)
Quote:With God there is at least a chance for genuine love. Isn't that better than no love at all? I believe God helps me to love others. Why do you crash my party by claiming my love is not real?
I'm capable of love. Why are you claiming my love is not real and crashing my party? If you need god to love someone, that's fine, don't claim that we need god as well.
Edit: I just saw your edit, I didn't realize you were asking for a specific someone's opinion. but you got mine because it's the middle of the night and i'm bored.