(July 26, 2013 at 3:59 am)genkaus Wrote:(July 25, 2013 at 7:10 pm)wandering soul Wrote: ok guys. I see us all inhabiting both a material universe of many worlds and a mental universe of many worlds. I would love to explore all the worlds of both. I really do see many different realities. I see the reality of the atheists, of the Christians, of the humanists and of the Buddhist, of the secularists and of the religionists. I have always loved all of them. Each provides a coherent, cogent, profoundly meaningful, rational and empirically verifiable explanation of our lived experience both in the material and in the mental universe(s).
These are landscapes of reality for me. But I realize that for many of you these are closed data sets, exclusive and un-modifiable models of a singular and uncontested Reality as such - you all just disagree about which reality is really real. Where I see a massive cliff of a thousand square feet to explore I see so many deeply invested in just trying to butt each other off the same two-square feet of cliff face like rams running repeatedly straight ahead to head butt the other off the cliff.
I wanted to entice some companions to explore the intriguing possible alternative models of reality that I see and can get to with a little conversation with inventive minds. But I'm really not into fighting over any of this cliff. There are some interesting minds here but I keep having to dodge all the head butting.
But you all do seem to be having a great deal of fun with each other in your own way. I just have a lot of life going on to take care of so can't probably do justice to the conversation as I should.
You can hold whatever strange and delusional views of reality you like, but the fact is, there can be only one view that provides a "coherent, cogent, profoundly meaningful, rational and empirically verifiable explanation of our lived experience".
Wouldn't that depend on who you ask? I think you will find many views of reality that fulfil all of those criteria for those that hold them, whilst, at the same time you will not find any view that is universally accepted.