(July 29, 2013 at 6:46 am)Brian37 Wrote: The NSA is not Obama's creation, it is a continuation of prior administrations policies. And as far as drone strikes vs all out wars, you have to be kidding me.
Not even REMOTELY the point on the former, and on the latter, I mean drone on-station flyovers over US soil.
(July 29, 2013 at 6:46 am)Brian37 Wrote: There is a difference between the office, and the man. The office of the presidency SHOULD always be under review with checks and balances as a LONG TERM issue, not one man, not one presidency, but as a long term check. If you check all the now declassified documents of prior presidents, you'd see similar things going on. It isn't to say we should not stop those things, but to make the issue about policy, not a person.No, you're right, we shouldn't make this about [i]the guy who signs the documents into law. Policies are the result of the person.[/quote]
(July 29, 2013 at 6:46 am)Brian37 Wrote: Presidents do not pull 360s if they replace the opposition party. They may tweak or scrap some of what a prior president does, but they do not wipe out everything a prior president has done.
In other words they DO pull 360s. Unless you meant 180s. And maybe they SHOULD, especially if the previous policies [like those of Bush] are fucking CRAP.
(July 29, 2013 at 6:46 am)Brian37 Wrote: I am more concerned with what SCOTUS has done allowing big business to flood political campaigns. I am also more concerned with the voting rights act being crippled by SCOTUS.
They're not innocent, but they are irrelevant to the topic at hand.
(July 29, 2013 at 6:46 am)Brian37 Wrote: It is worth discussing security tactics, but as a long term issue, not a paranoid issue about one man.
No, you're right, why should we hold the President of the United States accountable for the sorry-as-fuck-state of the United States, right?
