(August 2, 2013 at 10:40 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: GC, you're acting as if PP wasn't saying stuff about the Bible that actual Mormons wouldn't either. This is their 8th Article of Faith, and they adhere to it pretty strongly:
"8: We believe the Bible to be the Word of God, as far as it is translated correctly. We also believe the Book of Mormon to be the Word of God."
They know the Bible is unreliable. That's the whole reason that Joseph Smith Jr. and his buddies produced the Book of Mormon: it was to supplement the contradictory state of the Bible with something that was more succinct in its reasoning. On the other hand, the Book of Mormon fails miserably on the historical side, but that doesn't get rid of the fact that people were beginning to see problems with the Bible the moment it started coming in contact with the common man. The Holy Babble is also the reason why there are so many denominations, and not just one concise Christian religion.
Arguing with PP would have still been like arguing with a Mormon, but this Mormon was definitely a lot more rational, and a helluva lot cooler!
No historical records at all nothing to back it up period, the Bible was never written in secret, none of the writers of the Bible were con men or drugies. The Bible does not support the Book of Mormon, just as the Adventists have there other book and the JW have there translation of the Bible, they each contradict each other and do not line up with the Bible. There books and or translations come from one or two people, the scriptures have been translated by the agreement of hundreds of people to keep errors out of the Bible. So you hang in there with the Book of Mormon if you like, I do not believe it's relevant in any way and have no further use for a discussion on the book.
As far as arguing with PP goes, he has way to little knowledge of scripture to make even a poor argument, that's how I figured it out, you need to study scripture for several years , then maybe PP can try again.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.