Abusive Theology 101

[Locke]

For this one you can use scripture. In order to convince me you will have to convince me that:
1) God exists
2) The Christian god is the correct one
3) If the Christian god exists he/she is not an evil bastard with some serious anger issues.

If you manage to comvince me of 3 I'll be more open to 1 and 2.

There is a post somewhere on these forums "Is God Evil". Go and tip your toes in :).

Humans need each other to survive. Those people who go around proclaiming: "I don't need nothing from nobody" are stupid. And I'm not just saying that because they use double n
Because of this I can say with a fair amount of confidence that anything that is bad for society is bad for the individual (me). Since society is made up of individuals, anything that is bad for an individual will have a negative impact on society. That includes individuals who do not contribute to society - they have friends and family who do.

I also needed to be convinced of all 3 of these things, so I appreciate your genuine perspective. In that case, I'll tackle 3) then 1) and 2). It will be somewhat lengthy, so I'll pm you or send you an email, unless for some reason you'd prefer it scattered through a forum thread..?

I completely agree. However, the corporate nature of human society does not negate the benefits of torture, which are worth noting. For example, in all recorded human history there was nothing that came close to yielding the exponential growth of scientific medical advancement like the torture inflicted on the Jews in concentration camps. They used apalling methods to gain insights about substances and the human body that have saved millions of lives since, and given us knowledge we could never of gained from studying cadavers.


On a side note, I want to clarify: The Bible does not teach that infants or children are guilty of sin - with pure intentions it is impossible to sin. Sin is essentially rebellion to God, and one must have full mental capability to understand the consequences of their sin to be guilty of it. Note, this accounts for accidental sin as well; I child cannot fully grasp the consequences of his/her actions, but for us (as I don't think my audience here includes children) we can commit a sin unknowingly, but are not held responsible unless we see it and decide not to change. If you want more clarification on specifics then pm me.
Suffice to say, the Bible teaches that we must take responsibility for our actions, and it also clarifies the differences between sin, and consequences of sin.