RE: Abusive Theology 101
August 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2013 at 4:32 pm by John V.)
(August 8, 2013 at 3:21 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Are you aware that in societies of gorillas in the wild, that if one member of the society steals something from another member or group, that they are kicked out (condemned)? Also, in that same society, if a mother gorilla neglects or abuses her child (gorilla) that the society will adopt the baby, and will punish the bad mother.Actually you just said that they do need to be told that they are evil for being natural. They condemn the thief, as you say yourself.
I ask you; where did they learn this justice system? Do they have a holy book somewhere we don't know about? No. They, to quote your book, "By nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness."
TA DA! There you have it. We have developed these sets of 'laws' naturally. We humans, like other animals, just get it, and do not need to be told that we are evil for being natural.
Quote:No. My tale portrays all people as wretched without your (christ's) 'salvation', which is what the bibble (dribble) teaches.In the parable, the Christian would accept the offer.
That is the blindness I am speaking of; you clearly just don't see it. Also, in the parable, the homeless guy is a theist (christisn), and he's representative of most I know or have met. They (christians) love to get in people's faces and condemn them. Again, I don't subscribe to the irrational fears that you have sold your (soul) to purchase.
Quote:Thanks for the applause, though unlike theists, atheists don't do things to gain some ambiguous approval.Oh please, there's kudos, reputation, annual awards - the atheists here love to give and receive approval. People in general like praise, and get upset if it isn't forthcoming when they think it's due.
Quote:Natural selection has caused our species (humans) to thrive because of natural 'laws' that developed over millions of years; 'laws' that naturally govern the species, and not some god doing the law making (and condemning once those laws are broken).Forgot to mention that, if there is no god, then the natural laws selected by evolution which enable our species to thrive include religious laws. So, what's your beef? You think ya know better than millions of years of evolution?