(December 3, 2008 at 4:01 pm)Daystar Wrote:Sorry but evolution is a scientific fact. And nothing could be bigger bullshit than the supernatural because it completely goes against every law in the universe and is more complex than the universe itself. Anything that looks so amazing that it had to be desiged would have to be a lot more simple and less fine-tuned than the designer itself. Its more likely that the universe jumped into existence right from the start than a designer far more complex than the universe (or the universes, or the multiverse) to be there right from the start!(December 3, 2008 at 3:36 pm)CoxRox Wrote: Daystar, I would be interested to know why you don't believe in evolution. Have you studied it? I'm assuming you don't reject it just because the bible seems to teach 'instant' creation- the sudden appearing of species? (I'm aware you studied creation with the JWs, and they certainly allow no room for evolution based on their interpretation).
I was taught it in school and thought it was nonsense. I didn't study creation with the JWs. The only thing that evolves in evolution is evolution itself. There is no real evidence, only speculation and baseless assumptions. It is the purest form of bullshit I have ever seen, far more so even than religion.
Whenever anyone tries to convince you of something and assumes that you are stupid if you don't buy into it. Don't buy into it. Whenever anyone insists that there is evidence of something when there isn't, you can count on it not being there.
For example, I have asked for evidence of science disagreeing with the Bible here and on other Atheist and Bible Skeptic boards for years and have had a handful of baseless sermons straight from the ever evolving theoretical science and demands that I accept that.
I know bullshit when I see it. Propaganda of the masses. You want to explain it to me?
Edit: If you or anyone else does want to explain it to me here is some advice.
1. Just answer my questions in a simple and short manner and then if needed expand upon that.
I had a whole list of things but that will do.
Although I think everything came from something very simple indeed. With no mind, no intelligence and no consciousness. I believe everything developed naturally.
Also evolution is not 'just a theory'. Its a theory in the same way that the the theory of gravity is a theory. Its a scientific fact.
And also btw, in case you don't know, natural selection is not chance. Its the opposite of chance in fact. Its on going natural cumulation one step at a time over billions of years. Its not chance. Its natural. Yeah thats right. Natural selection is natural. Not random chance.
The alternative to design is not chance. Its natural selection.
Good point Coxrox. Is Daystar going to explain why evolution is a load of bullshit? I certainly explain why religion is a load of bullshit as far as I'm concerned. Not backed up by any evidence.
If Daystar says the same then that's clearly bullshit because evolution is backed up by TONS of scientific evidence. So is he going to just say all that evidence is bullshit or is he going to attempt to falsify the evidence supporting evolution?
What about DNA? What about fossils? What about DNA sequencing? All put there by Satan?
