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you have now redefined what it means to do science.

Nope. Obtaining an understanding or knowledge of the natural world through experimentation and observation is a widely accepted definition for science. You just failed to ever look it up before you jumped into this discussion, that’s not surprising.

Apparently, you've reasoned your way into believing that it's not the scientists that decide what's science.

Weren’t you ever taught you cannot use a form of the word you’re trying to define in your definition?
“Science- Whatever SCIENtists say it is.”

Scientist- an expert in science. (Webster’s)

Ok, how do you know who the scientists are without first knowing what science means? You’re becoming the king of tautology.

This is not only demonstrably wrong (we thankfully don't even have to go so far to prove that to you) but you are obviously wrong. I just feel bad for you. It must be really hard to perform so much mental gymnastics just to get the facts to look like they line up with your world view.

Assertions won’t get you far here. I’ve already pointed out the fallacious circularity of your argument, you can either remain irrational or revise your argument- frankly, I do not care which you choose.


You: “Science is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science which is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science and science is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science and science is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science and science is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science and science is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science and science is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science which is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science and science is whatever scientists say it is because scientists do science and scientists say it is because scientists do science!”

Me: Ok, but what is a scientist?
You: Someone who does science.
Me: Ok, then what is science?
You: Whatever a scientists says it is.
Me: Then how do I know who a scientist is?
You: He’ll be doing science.
Me: Ok, but how do I know what science is?
You: Ask a scientist.
Me: Ok, how do know who a scientist is?
You: He’ll be doing science.

Around and around we go!