(August 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Not sure what you mean here, I already pointed out that they do scientific work for the major creation institutions.
Ah, I see what you did here. You equivocated their scientific work with a made up branch of science called "Creation Science".
SW Wrote:Quote: I'm curious though. How does the developer of the scientific method being a creationist make any difference in your argument?
It makes a huge difference. It points out the fact that your claim that creationists cannot be scientists is utterly absurd because all of modern science is based upon a method of inquiry that was first formulated by a creationist.
I never made such a claim...so...yeah. You're arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. Again, how does the person who formulated scientific method being a Creationist in any supports your idea that there is such a thing called Creation Science?
SW Wrote:Quote: If you could somehow prove that an atheist couldn't have come up with the method, then that would be impressive.
Nice fallacious argument from ignorance, “You cannot prove an atheist couldn’t have first formulated the scientific method, therefore an atheist could have first formulated the scientific method!”
Who are you quoting there in your statement? Not me, I hope, because I never actually said that. Do you do this with every Atheist you argue with, that is, put words in their mouth? My actual words (the ones above this rebuttal statement of yours) was a direct follow on to my asking you why it's important that the person who formulated the scientific method was a creationist. My statement deals with a hypothetical; we know that an atheist didn't come up with the method, but it all still comes back to asking why it's important that this man was a creationist. We're waiting on your answer.
SW Wrote:Min Wrote:Let's have all the evidence you can muster for all life beginning 6,000 years ago in the middle east when your silly-assed god poofed everything into existence. Take your time. We'll wait.
We’d be here for years, and I do not want to waste your golden years there old-timerThe day you actually sincerely want to debate the topic rather than this sort of meaningless rhetoric I’d me more than happy to do so, but everyone knows you lack the intellectual fortitude and honesty to sincerely debate anything.
No, no. This is a public forum, so spill the beans on your magic evidence that makes god so apparently true.
SW Wrote:(August 16, 2013 at 6:05 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Never met one. Unlikely to ever meet one. However, see below:You’ve never met a creationist who holds a position as a scientist? I have.
You're making the same mistake with FC that you made with me. Creation Scientist =/= Scientists that are Creationists. Stop mincing the words we speak because we're going to make you eat them.
SW Wrote:Quote: The reason why creation science is tosh is becuase creationism, specifically YEC, is demonstrably a fairy tale.
Assertion received, demonstration needed.
He's rejecting your fairy tale that you hold claim to. The burden of proof remains yours, SW. You don't see the distinction here? Your evidence simply hasn't held up. You need to prove that creationism is true by proving that god is true. Do that, and you'll get a lot less naysayers. Shifting the burden of proof is simply going to halt your progress here.
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