(August 23, 2013 at 7:37 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Scientific facts are not established by consensus or even majority opinion.
Uhm. Yes they are, actually... Since apparently you are clearly scientifically illiterate (seems to be a recurring theme with you creationists) , allow me to provide you with some scientific literacy. It's this thing called "peer review" and "falsifiability." A hypothesis is tested to see if it can be falsified by not just the individual or group that posited it, but by the scientific community at large, who all come at the hypothesis like sharks to blood in the water. You see, there is just as much "street cred" given to a scientist who disproves a hypothesis or theory as there is to one who proves it. Only once the hypothesis/theory has survived every known attempt to disprove it can it be considered scientific fact, and even then it is always constantly at risk of being proven wrong if indeed it is wrong. Most theories that are considered fact, however, aren't ever proven wrong; they're just modified to become more correct.
Creation "science" isn't science because it comes with a presupposition; that there must be a god, and that he must have created everything. There is no proof to this but it makes the claim anyway. It is already false science; it has preconception bias and bases its theories on unfalsifiable and unprovable claims. THIS. IS. NOT. SCIENCE.
Quote:I think you are operating under a fundamental misunderstanding of what Creation Science is.
No he's not, he's merely stating the obvious; the creation science is anything but scientific.
Quote:Creationists do not postulate scientific theories and seek scientific evidence
THAT much is certainly true!
Quote: in order to establish who the Creator is.
Or anything else for that matter.
Quote:That is a philosophical question that we already have the answer to. We are merely learning about His creation through the scientific method.
In other words you're picking and choosing what science you consider valid and interjecting it with your own presuppositions wherever you see fit. That's not using the scientific method. It's using your own bullshit claims and calling it science.
Quote:There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and it is valid science.
Yes there is, and no it is not. Calling a pile of bull shit a chocolate pie doesn't make it a chocolate pie; it's still bull shit.