(August 27, 2013 at 5:47 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(August 27, 2013 at 1:01 pm)Drich Wrote: Again because they are not standing in 'Fox holes' being shot at.
Do you think it's reasonable to expect them to take a group photo when they're actually being shot at?
(August 26, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Drich Wrote: Just because you are 'over there' does not automaticaly place you on the front lines (Where the fox holes are.)
My step-brother is a marine and an atheist, and he's been on the front lines through four tours. He has a bronze star for heroism in combat.
(August 26, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Drich Wrote: Just so we are clear a 'fox hole' is a pit dug usually hastily for individual cover from enemy fire. Meaning there are not high was or protect areas/armor to hide behind.
If you're going to be that literal, there aren't any Christians in foxholes either, (or 'freakin' holes', as my brother calls them). Aphorisms aren't facts.
(August 26, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Drich Wrote: Again those d-bags are not in foxholes.
Those 'd-bags' volunteered to put their lives on the line to protect your country. That's true even if they've never been under fire, which is total speculation on your part based on NOTHING but your desire for it to not be so.
(August 27, 2013 at 1:44 pm)Drich Wrote: Seriously who among you does not plan to do a 'death bed confession' just to cover your bases when/if you are given the chance?
Probably about the same as the percentage of Christians who are planning planning to touch base with Allah and Vishnu on their deathbeds just to cover their bases when/if they're are given the chance.
The 'd-bags' are 'd-bags' because they are in a 'safe' place well outside of harms way posing for a picture that implies they are in harms way.
I am not going to get into a who has served this country more, but there is a standing contempt for enlisted guys who 'pose' for crap like that. My whole family is military (except for my dad who was/is an old hippy.) all combat vets, (enlisted and comissioned officers) my mother's side of the family came to the US because her sister was a 'war bride' from korea. I get it. what you do not seem to 'get' is not everyone who wears a uniform is indeed worthy of the same respect as those who go 'over there' and do indeed put themselves in harms way. Any guy who is indeed in the rear with the gear who looks to be respected as a combat vets is the worst of the worst. 99% of anyone who has served up hold a place of great honor for actual combat vets. they themselves would never classify themselves as being cut from that cloth. To do so would sully what combat vets have done for this country.
If you want to discuss this particular photo again I will be happy to show you (again) how these guys have repersented themselves as being in harms way when clearly they were not.
Again I don't know what happened before or after this photo was taken, but at that moment, they were simply posing. They were not what they were pretending to be. This would be like an 'actor' who flew into india hati or Japan after their disasters a week or two into the work relief, and 'posing' near the aid station so as to look like they are really working, but not actually have to go out in the 'stuff' and do any of the undesireable work.
Even actors know that to compare their 'posing' to what the actual relief workers do is not on the same scale, and most of the lessor d-bag actors who do pose for photos like that will not compare themselves to those who are in the heart breaking stuff for weeks at a time.
