(August 28, 2013 at 5:17 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: It's a measure of conceit to judge yourself the victor. Debates are rendered meaningless thisaway.
If you were being intellectually honest you’d judge me the victor as well. The opposition has provided no counter-argument demonstrating that creationism does not fit the definition of science. Until they do so, my argument stands un-refuted.
(August 28, 2013 at 5:30 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Creationism doesn't fit the definition of science. Science doesn't start with a conclusion and then fit all evidence to prove that conclusion.
What are you talking about? Scientists are allowed to possess axioms, and evidence can only be interpreted consistently with one’s own axioms, this is basic level stuff. You’re obviously just grasping at straws.
Quote: But that's exactly what "creation science" does.
That’s what all science does.
Quote: They always start with the idea of biblical creationism being the only explanation of our existence and then fit all data to match that conclusion.
No, they merely allow for deductive proof to trump inductive reasoning which is something all scientists do because it is logical. The fact you do not like their ultimate axiom is irrelevant.
Quote: Anything that doesn't fit is discarded even if it disproves the idea, and anything that remotely supports the idea is loudly touted as truth.
Examples needed.
Quote: This is not how science works.
According to? You?
Quote: And frankly, all "creation science" arguments boil down to once you take out the "life looks designed to me, therefore it was designed" arguments is nothing more than attacks on evolution, as if destroying evolutionary theory means that creationism wins by default. Again, this is not science.
I think you’re confusing Intelligent Design with Creationism, creationists do not merely use the teleological argument. Not only this, but you seem unaware of the importance of disjunctive reasoning which is ironic considering it is precisely the reasoning Darwin used to try to first establish his theory. Is Darwinism therefore unscientific?
Quote: You claiming that creationism is science and declaring yourself the winner is nothing more than your own delusion of grandeur.
It fits the definition of science, so therefore it is science. That’s pretty simple. The fact you do not like creationism is utterly irrelevant.