(August 30, 2013 at 7:48 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: SW-
You seem to be demanding that creationism is a legitimate discipline under the umbrella we call science, but then you say let the best science win, as if it is competing for supremacy over that same umbrella? This is either confusing or wrong. Clarify, please?
I am using the term science to mean the methodology of understanding the natural Universe; so by desiring for the best science to win I want the ideas that are supported by the best science (methodology and conceptual scheme) to take precedence over those that are based upon poorly conducted science regardless of what the implications of those ideas are. Creationism is science; it’s a methodology used to understand the natural Universe. I apologize for the confusion.
(August 30, 2013 at 7:56 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Obviously something that cannot be proven to exist is actually completely in line with science. There's nothing crazy about that, of course.
You act as if we use science to test all existential and truth claims, I am sorry but that is ridiculous. Science presupposes that numerous claims are true a priori. To assert that somehow creationists are not allowed to do what every other scientist is allowed to do is fallacious special pleading. You do not like creationists, I get it; that has no bearing on whether or not creationism is science though.
(August 30, 2013 at 8:31 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: This is really the main point, to be sure. But what I addressed above, his explanation depending, is just...well...
It’s equally perplexing as to why you and BWS seem to think that creationists are trying to somehow prove God exists through some sort of inductive scientific inquiry. That’s a matter of deduction and not the goal of creationism at all.