Why does god want to cut off women's hands?

[Esquilax]

Yes, I like personal freedoms most of the time. Of course, drug addicts like drugs, rapists like raping, serial killers like murdering... It's ad hoc to justify freedom as a right because people like it.

I'm going to go ahead and ask you to consider my entire position when you comment on it, not just the bit in the quote you've taken from me. In this case, the bit about societal health and the good of everyone, not just individuals.

There's a number of ways, and you can't objectively prove that on is better than another.

And?

The slave owners were apparently able to own slaves despite their human empathy.

Ah, I should have known you wouldn't be familiar with this concept: it's called "learning," and it's something that most functioning humans- and groups of humans- are capable of doing to correct past mistakes. In this case, you've got a bunch of slave owners being less empathetic (and using your bible to justify themselves in that. Just think about that: their position was correct because god said it was okay, apparently.) and a larger group of people being more empathetic in the form of those who are against slavery. Society is a self-correcting thing, there will be mistakes, but that's what you'd expect from a bunch of imperfect humans.

It's not, however, what one would expect from a group of humans being guided by a benevolent and perfect, all knowing god...

Societies with slaves functioned for centuries. This argument is imaginary.

I didn't say they didn't function. I did say they function better, more morally, now, without slavery. Don't you agree?

No, I'm saying that in such societies consent of a bride in an arranged marriage was not required. Call it rape if you like - in so doing you're painting humanity as so evil that it deserves judgment.

I rather think I'm also painting the god that would allow that as evil and deserving of judgment, you fucking rape apologist.

Personally I prefer to try to understand peoples of other times and cultures rather than sitting in judgment of them. Go figure.

Aren't you one of those fucking "objective morality" dudes, though? Objective- god given- means it doesn't change, regardless of context. Sure sounds like you're willing to leap to context driven, subjective morality when it's convenient!

Too bad you think rape and murder and slavery are all things that can be twisted that way.

If beings with superior mental capacity have rights which lesser beings don't, then god has rights that humans don't.

Assuming you can demonstrate he exists, genius.