RE: Are jews going to hell now?
September 9, 2013 at 6:17 pm
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2013 at 6:19 pm by Vicki Q.)
(September 9, 2013 at 10:45 am)max-greece Wrote: I'm.......I'm.......I'm.......in....shock.
Did I just see a Christian confirm that righteous Jews go to heaven?
Hang on.....if Righteous Jews get to go to heaven, what about Righteous Moslems or Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs .....
For health and safety reasons, you must not look at sections 841 and 842, because the shock may be too much:
Don't do it!
(September 9, 2013 at 10:54 am)Brian37 Wrote: I honestly don't get Jews being chummy with Christians (not in humanitarian sense, I'd like everyone to get along even if we bitch at each other, Muslims and atheists included)
But in a story line sense. The bible treats Jews like the limo driver and the Christians as the passengers to the club. The limo arrives to the club, the Christians go in but say to the limo driver "Dude, we love you and thanks for the ride, but this is for club members only"
The cop out I get from Christians is "No no no... they can get in if they accept Jesus". But where does that leave the Jews who don't betray their own faith?
It's a very good post, headed by the best use of an ABBA picture ever, fan or not.
Things have moved on since Vermes “Jesus the Jew” and Sanders “Paul and Palestinian Judaism” were published, and the original relationship with Judaism is being rediscovered.
Christianity is not distinct from Judaism. It is Judaism. When Paul was writing about the place of Jews within the New Covenant, he was writing as a Jew. When the Early Church looked at the OT to develop their understanding of it, they were doing so from within Judaism. When the Gospel writers are writing about the Christmas events, the perspective is so thoroughly Jewish that it almost makes a mockery of the idea it's a Christian event.
The New Testament is the same story as the Old- how the one God is fulfilling his promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, so that through that fulfilment he might accomplish the wider purpose of rescuing the whole world. Jesus' death and resurrection is the crowning glory of Judaism itself.
Do Jews go to heaven? I would not presume to lay down any criteria for who God chooses as his people. I find it hard to believe that supporters of Manchester United could ever be part of God's Holy Kingdom, but otherwise who knows?
