(September 9, 2013 at 8:25 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Ah, I see the issue with this entire post.
SW, you think that since there are scientists that are creationists, that creationism is a science. Non-sequitur notwithstanding, you're just beating a dead horse with this tripe.
That’s not my argument.
Quote: Also, I really appreciate your attempt at twisting my words. I never said that science proposes absolute fact, but it does have to make some assumptions based on observations to come up with any theories. Whether or not these theories are complete is up to new evidence we uncover in years to come.You see the problem is, I have your words available to me, and you specifically stated that scientists presuppose nothing. Now, after I presented over a dozen presuppositions that all scientists possess you’re now walking that claim back. The point is, you cannot discount creationism as a science simply for possessing presuppositions when you’re allowing other sciences to possess presuppositions. The real kicker is that the creationists’ ultimate presupposition makes sense of all of the other presuppositions held by other scientists, it’s a far more cogent conceptual scheme.
(September 9, 2013 at 8:44 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: TL;DR. Sorry, Stat.
One sentence was too long for you to read?
Quote: You're holding a candle whose flame has long been snuffed.
Fallacy of the faulty analogy.
Quote: Continued harping that it is still lit doesn't necessitate further responses from me...those more learned than I have already shed enough light on creationism's weaknesses.
You’ve pointed to nothing in the actual definition of the term science that would disqualify creationism, so it still stands as a science today.
Quote: Hell, you may as well be pushing a flat earth.
Fallacy of the faulty analogy.