(September 10, 2013 at 8:33 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: I think proving the existence of a deity by means of science would certainly turn a few heads.
Yes, especially considering it’s impossible because science does not deal with proof.
Quote: However, you would need to first demonstrate that your god exists.
It’s not hard to do so, but it is a matter of deduction, not science.
Quote: After that any presupposition of his meddling in the creation of the universe can properly be explored.
Meddling? You can’t even explain how anything happens in Nature without God. Try it.
Quote: You'll have to come up with some mechanism by which this god creates, of course, if you're going to do this scientifically.
According to...?
Quote: After all, like you said, science deals with testing hypotheses (thank you for correcting me on that one).
That it does, but God creating the Universe is a necessary presupposition, not a hypothesis. I am not sure why that seems to be so difficult for you to understand.
(September 11, 2013 at 5:57 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Hardly. P2 is totally wrong because creationism is a methodology which uses supernatural explanations for the natural universe. Total fail, creationism is not science.
Total fail is right! Trying to masquerade methodological naturalism as being synonymous with the definition of science. There is nothing in the definition of science requiring that the explanation itself must be natural, it must only be explaining and studying the natural universe. Nice try though! Creationism is science.
Science- the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.