(September 15, 2013 at 10:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: [quote='Drich' pid='506610' dateline='1379283359']
http://thestoryofjesus.com/herod.html
If you don't like my source google your own.
I always do. Your "sources" are always ten pounds of shit in a five-pound bag.
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Omf he actually post's a source with huge errors in it.
Story of jesus']here is the error, archelaus was not herods oldest anitpater was as stated in britannica here.
Herod ruled from around 37 BC until his death in 1 BC. This is the HEROD who was on the scene at the time of the birth of Jesus.
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Well thats bullshit, and here is the encyclopedia britannica
[quote=Britannica]
Herod, byname Herod the Great, Latin Herodes Magnus (born 73 bc—died March/April, 4 bc, Jericho, Judaea), Roman-appointed king of Judaea (37–4 bc), who built many fortresses, aqueducts, theatres, and other public buildings and generally raised the prosperity of his land but who was the centre of political and family intrigues in his later years.
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here's another bit from the story of jesus
[quote=Story of jesus Wrote:ARCHELAUS was the eldest son of Herod the Great. This Herod ruled after his father died and is only mentioned once in the biblical account. In the gospel of Matthew it is recorded that after Joseph had been told that Herod was dead and that he could return home he learned that Archelaus was now ruling over Judea and was afraid. Joseph was warned in a dream not to return to Judea, and so he settled his family in Galilee. So Jesus was born in Bethlehem but grew up in Galilee.
Britannica Wrote:in his last years Herod suffered from arteriosclerosis. He had to repress a revolt, became involved in a quarrel with his Nabataean neighbors, and finally lost the favour of Augustus. He was in great pain and in mental and physical disorder. He altered his will three times and finally disinherited and killed his firstborn, Antipater.Now drich this really hurts your argument, because if your sources can't handle such basic information then it calls all the conclusions you make off that information into question as well as the information itself.
Also this same site makes two assertions with zero evidence.
"Story of jesus Wrote:Herod the Great - Met with the Wise men from the east. Killed all the babies under 2 years old in Bethlehem in an attempt to kill Jesus.We have zero evidence to back up these claims and good reason to believe that no such attempt was made on the children of Bethlehem, as hero was a client king of Augustus, and a out of favor one at that after a unauthorized war. So given that he only rule with Augustus blessing in his last year such a infanticide is way beyond out of character for Augustus and was not noted by any historian in the golden age of Latin literature. That includes people like Livy, Seneca, both Pliny's and Tacitus. none record infanticide, even Josephus.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.