Can raw energy create Order

[John V]

How about instead of quibbling over definitions, you just take my point that evolution and abiogenesis are not the same thing?

No, when you use words completely incorrectly, it's worth noting.

Nope: evolution can take place even within the constraints of an intelligently designed system. That's why we can breed dogs. Theistic evolution is a thing many christians accept, and there's also the idea of directed panspermia. The fact that evolution takes place isn't in doubt; it's confirmed, it's directly observable, and can be reproduced by anyone given enough inclination and money. Abiogenesis doesn't have the same level of support, which should be your first hint that they do not rely upon one another.

You reject creationism and panspermia just moves abiogenesis to a different location. So, yes, evolution is dependent on abiogenesis.

No, I'm saying that evolution is entirely confirmed and factual, and it is: Check it.

And don't get me started on this theory/fact crap again: Educate yourself.

Use the word consistently with its claimed meaning and I won't be able to call you out on it.

Hmm... kind of. I'm actually having a hard time putting my objection here into words, but I think the issue here is that the two processes that really aren't alike; evolution is a thing that only happens to living organisms, after all. By definition, it's a process that occurs within already formed life, whilst abiogenesis is all about the formation of life.

You're likely having trouble wording it because "life" is surprisingly difficult to define.