(September 18, 2013 at 10:13 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Aractus,Again, don't wear my name out.
Quote:I thought it was sort of self evident that if the Bible says don't lie, and you lie without remorse and supplication for forgiveness through Christ like the Bible says to (unless you're an orthodox jew and don't accept the New Testament): you're going to hell. Thus the: if you don't do as the Bible says (ask for forgiveness from Christ for your sins), you're going to hell comment. Please explain why my reasoning is not right according to you.Firstly, hell is not a place intended for humans, it is an eternal place that was created to banish Satan and his daemons to. All Christians believe this.
Secondly, there exists a wide disagreement among theologians as to the nature of hell and its relationships for humans, so much so that the Roman Catholic Church are convinced that there is this mythical place called "purgatory" that exists solely to prevent humans from going to hell so that they can be purified and made ready for heaven - which is the place that is designed and intended for humans.
Thirdly, the Bible does make it explicit that the wicked are banished to hell alongside Satan and his daemons. But it never, ever, says anywhere that all non believers go to hell; this is central to your claim.
Quote:Also, fiction is fiction is fiction unless you can prove that it isn't.Bullshit.
All serious historians believed for over 2,000 years that the Egyptian Pyramids were built by slaves based on one single piece of writing by a 1st cent. BC contemporary GREEK historian. Then, they excavated the graves of Egyptian workers who built one of the pyramids, and they are all (that is majority/consensus) now convinced that every pyramid must have been built by Egyptian workers and not by slaves (regardless of the fact they're built centuries apart)!
Go practise falling down.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke