RE: Strong Atheism starts from faith
January 19, 2010 at 7:42 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2010 at 7:53 am by KichigaiNeko.)
(January 19, 2010 at 4:36 am)FaithvsFact Wrote:(January 19, 2010 at 3:58 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Why do you assume the standpoint that we would disagree that strong atheism is a faith based position? There is no need for this whole song and dance, it is.
So can I ask what it is you have faith in? And if you trust these things by faith, what do you count on as fact? It will be helpful if you go back and answer the first two questions I posed so that we can be clear on what you mean by faith and how you establish fact. And as to the song and dance - we haven't even started yet LOL!
I have faith in my own abilities...anything else is a mind wank
(January 19, 2010 at 1:27 am)FaithvsFact Wrote: Ok thanks for those two replies so far.
Please keep them coming! I'd like to work some way towards a common definition first before continuing.
(January 19, 2010 at 1:18 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: 1) Scientific
2) Delusion
Presumably you are saying a (not "the") scientific method establishes fact? And also that faith is synonymous with delusion? Can you please confirm?
You assume way to much grasshopper!!
Scientific method is the only available method to establish anything that could be remotely consigned to fact....it involves logic, deduction and analysis of available data.
Faith is synonymous to delusion in regards to religion. I have faith in my self and my abilities...many would think that I am delusional...
next?
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