Strong Atheism starts from faith

[FaithvsFact]

Lmao Leo, totally right.

I get the feeling that our new friend here, FaithVsFact, has a bit of a disingenuous agenda.

Who else uses a name on a forum that mirrors their first agenda?

I also find it rather Ironic that your name is FaithvsFact and yet you obviously subscribe to the former part of your name, implying that the main claims of Christianity are non factual, which is true, yet you seem to have a problem with strong Atheists taking the same position.

Hypocrisy much?

Actually its my turn to laugh ha ha! If you read my first opening statement I wanted to demonstrate that strong atheists foundationally start from faith which is what you have since confirmed - so in fact - I don't have a problem with that at all! But to be clear - I still require you to define for me what you mean by faith and what you use to establish fact. Someone posted about using science - is this true for you?

I use the scientific method for scientific claims, it is by fat the best methodology for establishing truth clams that we have, it's results are testament to this success.

I consider faith a belief that is neither logical nor based on evidence.

Okay this also is interesting. You say you use the scientific method for scientific claims for establishing truth claims but I'm here to tell you that sometimes the science is simply not available when a scientific job needs to get done. As a professional mechanical engineer of 10+ years experience in billion dollar plus resource projects, I use science where it is available to deliver my designs but where it is not available I must rely on previous experience or my own "gut feel" or apply what is affectionately called in my game the "fudge factor". So what happens for you when you don't have the science? May I hold you to your definition of how you "establish truth claims"? I would like to come back to that.

I'd also like to hold you to your definition of how your describe faith. May I do that?

Anyway, I am not sure if you are a strong atheist.