Strong Atheism starts from faith

[Zhalentine]

Okay this also is interesting. You say you use the scientific method for scientific claims for establishing truth claims but I'm here to tell you that sometimes the science is simply not available when a scientific job needs to get done. As a professional mechanical engineer of 10+ years experience in billion dollar plus resource projects, I use science where it is available to deliver my designs but where it is not available I must rely on previous experience or my own "gut feel" or apply what is affectionately called in my game the "fudge factor". So what happens for you when you don't have the science? May I hold you to your definition of how you "establish truth claims"? I would like to come back to that.

I'd also like to hold you to your definition of how your describe faith. May I do that?

Anyway, I am not sure if you are a strong atheist.

Using the scientific method for proving scientific claims is different than using the scientific method to make a judgment call when the science isn't available.

I'm not sure if you're implying that he would be using faith to make the judgment call when the science isn't available, but based on the definition he gave you, "a belief that is neither logical nor based on evidence," he would not be using faith because using past experiences that can relate to the topic is what a logical person does. He would be using faith if he just picked a random solution and hoped it worked.