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Why atheism is irrational
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RE: Why atheism is irrational
(September 26, 2013 at 5:52 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(September 26, 2013 at 5:25 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Atheists are desperate to rationalize their atheism, and "We find insufficient evidence" makes for the perfect cover.

Lack of evidence is a perfectly valid and rational reason to withhold belief of a claim.

Quote:But how do we know if this is the reason? How do we test to see if this hypothesis is true, rather than other, non-rational hypotheses?

We know the hypothesis is true because I (and the vast majority of atheists) have not been presented with sufficient evidence to justify belief, for us.

As of now, I have not been presented with sufficient evidence to support the claim that a god exists.

Quote:This tells me atheism is more about hatred and rage, bitterness and victimhood than merely "I don't see enough evidence."

I have none of that toward theists in general. Most of my family and friends are theists.

Quote:How many discussions do atheists have among themselves about the evidence, and what counts as evidence in an intellectually rigorous manner?

Happens all the time. Dennett, Harris, Weinberg, Sagan and many others have written books. The subject is part of any basic philosophy department.

My friends and I, some atheists, some theists have these discussions all the time.

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Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Ryantology - September 25, 2013 at 12:34 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Whateverist - September 25, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Kayenneh - September 25, 2013 at 6:20 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by LastPoet - September 27, 2013 at 9:49 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by pocaracas - September 27, 2013 at 10:26 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Cyberman - September 25, 2013 at 6:49 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Cyberman - September 25, 2013 at 6:50 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by gall - September 25, 2013 at 7:47 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Whateverist - September 25, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by gall - September 25, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by LastPoet - September 25, 2013 at 10:04 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by LastPoet - September 25, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by gall - September 25, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Whateverist - September 25, 2013 at 10:42 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by LastPoet - September 25, 2013 at 10:45 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Cyberman - September 25, 2013 at 10:39 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Faith No More - September 25, 2013 at 9:51 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Airyaman - September 25, 2013 at 10:40 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Cyberman - September 25, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Brian37 - September 26, 2013 at 10:15 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Doubting Thomas - September 26, 2013 at 10:23 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Gilgamesh - September 26, 2013 at 4:53 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by pocaracas - September 26, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Wolf - September 26, 2013 at 8:00 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Silver - September 26, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by little_monkey - September 27, 2013 at 9:40 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Ryantology - September 26, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Gilgamesh - September 26, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Simon Moon - September 26, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 6:05 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by pocaracas - September 26, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Jackalope - September 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Cyberman - September 26, 2013 at 7:26 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Silver - September 26, 2013 at 8:33 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Silver - September 26, 2013 at 6:04 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Simon Moon - September 26, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Creed of Heresy - September 26, 2013 at 6:27 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Wolf - September 26, 2013 at 8:06 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 9:57 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by pocaracas - September 26, 2013 at 8:23 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Silver - September 26, 2013 at 8:38 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Wolf - September 26, 2013 at 8:42 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by pocaracas - September 27, 2013 at 5:28 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Simon Moon - September 26, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 9:11 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Wolf - September 26, 2013 at 9:25 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 9:46 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Wolf - September 26, 2013 at 8:37 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Writer - September 26, 2013 at 9:21 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Wolf - September 26, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Silver - September 26, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Rahul - September 26, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Rahul - September 26, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 11:06 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Rahul - September 26, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 26, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Rahul - September 27, 2013 at 7:15 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 27, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Rahul - September 27, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 27, 2013 at 9:27 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Rahul - September 27, 2013 at 9:33 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 27, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Silver - September 27, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Jackalope - September 27, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Wolf - September 27, 2013 at 6:46 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 27, 2013 at 9:55 pm
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Writer - October 2, 2013 at 12:52 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Bad Writer - October 2, 2013 at 11:58 am
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RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 9, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by pocaracas - October 10, 2013 at 3:41 am
RE: Why atheism is irrational - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 10, 2013 at 4:02 pm
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