(September 23, 2013 at 11:06 am)missluckie26 Wrote: typical responses. You do know that other people besides myself read these threads, right? I mean, if you aren't interested in "teaching" then why are you here?There you go again, assuming you know why I'm here, etc. I don't care who you are, atheist or Christian, Islamic or Buddhist - if I hear bullshit I'll call you on it.
Quote:Channeling catfish's aloofness isn't going to make you any form of right, and sorta disappoints to be honest. I legitimately want to know why after everything I've laid out for you, you still hold fast to your beliefs.No, you're assuming that there's only one view on a range of issues to which there are multiple views among scholars and theologians. You think that you can quote a few verses that talk about a particular subject and that the conclusion you draw is the only conclusion to be held.
Quote:Most atheists I ask equate you to wanting it to be true so you are deceiving yourself into believing it's true and any information that contradicts your morals in any way is dismissed by any number of logical fallacies. Secretly deep down I hope that is not the case, because honestly: that's fucked up beyond measure.I can prove to you that the Bible isn't "fake", and yet you will let your bias prevent you from accepting it.
The clearest possible proof there is is the siege of Jerusalem which occurred in 70AD. The prophecy can be found four times: Matthew 24:1-2, Mark 13:1-2, Luke 19:41-44, and Luke 21:5-9.
Paul is martyred in 64 or 67AD. Luke is an associate of Paul (see 2 Timothy 4:11), and the author of the Gospel According to Luke and The Book of Acts. Luke writes extensively about Paul in the book of Acts, which is written before the death of Paul. The Gospel according to Luke is written about a year or so earlier than the book of Acts, so c. 60-61AD. It is widely accepted that Luke is the last of the synoptic gospels to have been written, thus all four of the prophecies that I've given you were written prior to c. 62AD. The siege of Jerusalem happens in AD 70.
Now you will tell me the same thing that every atheist says to this evidence - that the prophecy was inserted AFTER AD 70 into a copy of each of the Gospels. The two responses I have to this are: 1. Prove it. It's up to you to prove that evidence is wrong if you disagree with it. 2. We have NT manuscripts from the second century, and even one from the first century, and none of them contain a contradiction to the manuscripts we have from the 3rd and 4th centuries, this completely disproves the theory of "systematic tampering", so again - where' the proof?
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke