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Science and Religion
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RE: Science and Religion
(October 2, 2013 at 3:22 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: So you're going to claim that a cell looks designed rather than became that way over millions of years of evolution?

This is why science is at odds with religion. Mainly because religion has already made up its mind with an erroneous conclusion and then fits all evidence to support that conclusion, while science just goes where the evidence takes it. And the evidence has taken science to the place where evolution is not only a rational explanation, it is through repeatable testing the only explanation of how life came to be, not just saying, "this looks designed, therefore Goddidit."

The "design" argument is a really bad one, because it relies on focusing on all the pretty stuff in reality while ignoring all the nasty shit(that is also complex). Cockroaches are complex and outnumber humans. Bacteria are complex also and also outnumber humans.

Complexity is not a starting point, it is an emergent property. Like a zygote is less complex than an adult human. Just as an atom is not complex compared to a molecule as compared to an entire organism. Just like one raindrop is not as complex as a puddle.

Biological life is "not designed" anymore than a hurricane occurs because of an ocean god.

Biological life exists because of natural conditions and do not need "god did it" to explain.
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Science and Religion - by Tortino - October 2, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: Science and Religion - by max-greece - October 2, 2013 at 9:41 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Tortino - October 2, 2013 at 10:11 am
RE: Science and Religion - by paulpablo - October 2, 2013 at 9:52 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Tortino - October 2, 2013 at 10:16 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Brian37 - October 2, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Chas - October 3, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: Science and Religion - by paulpablo - October 3, 2013 at 2:02 am
RE: Science and Religion - by max-greece - October 2, 2013 at 10:13 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Bad Writer - October 2, 2013 at 10:21 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Tortino - October 2, 2013 at 10:26 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Bad Writer - October 2, 2013 at 10:52 am
RE: Science and Religion - by max-greece - October 2, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Brian37 - October 2, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Angrboda - October 2, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Doubting Thomas - October 2, 2013 at 3:22 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Brian37 - October 2, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Minimalist - October 2, 2013 at 3:24 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Heir Apparent - October 2, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Faith No More - October 2, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Doubting Thomas - October 2, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Brian37 - October 2, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Bad Writer - October 2, 2013 at 4:57 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Doubting Thomas - October 2, 2013 at 5:09 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Brian37 - October 2, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Doubting Thomas - October 2, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Brian37 - October 2, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Doubting Thomas - October 2, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Brian37 - October 2, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Doubting Thomas - October 2, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by ManMachine - October 2, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by max-greece - October 3, 2013 at 2:23 am
RE: Science and Religion - by ManMachine - October 3, 2013 at 4:13 am
RE: Science and Religion - by Simsim - October 3, 2013 at 7:13 am
RE: Science and Religion - by FallentoReason - October 4, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: Science and Religion - by Ryantology - October 4, 2013 at 9:37 pm

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