And Hells come back to haunt me

[Simon Moon]

Hi Folks,

I am in a bit of a Predicament, I read yesterday about the pascals wager and so I became a bit skeptic.

Good. Pascal's Wager fails on every level. It was fallacious in the 17th century, it is still fallacious in the 21st.

Hell, Pascal wasn't even the first person to come up with the argument.

In the famous tragedy of Euripides Bacchae, Kadmos states an early version of Pascal's wager. It is noteworthy that at the end of the tragedy Dionysos, the god to whom Kadmos referred, appears and punishes him for thinking in this way. Euripides, quite clearly, considered and dismissed the wager in this tragedy.

By the end I was concrete in my opinion that God 'May' Exist but if he does we are all pretty much fucked as he Isn't very stable minded. And it also appears he punishes those who aren't on his team. E.g. Abraham - Lot - Joseph.

It is my contention that the god in the Bible can not exist due to the law of contradiction. But yeah, the god character of the Bible is a capricious, petulant, jealous, angry monster. If it did exist, it would be the duty of every moral human to fight against it's immoral actions.

But since people are raising pascals wager I am a bit deluded as I now believe I am going to hell by the God of the Christian bible.

How much time are you spending worried about going to the Islam hell?

And lastly is the fact that I have my view on Genesis that falls apart quickly. Maybe I need to solidify my Athiest Belief?

The question to ask is, is the existence of the Christian god (and hell) supported by demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument, and valid/sound logic? Any reasonable examination with a critical mind will lead to 'no' as the answer.

Is this a correct view point - Would reading Exodus add more concrete to the Athiest Mixture or would it weaken it.

There is zero evidence that the Jews were ever in Egypt in any large number, held as slaves, had a mass exodus, lived in the Sinai desert in any large numbers, etc.

So, yes, reading Exodus knowing that it is completely unsupported by reality and actual evidence will weaken it.

Think about this. According to Exodus 12:37-38, the Israelites numbered "about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children," plus many non-Israelites and livestock.

Numbers 1:46 gives a more precise total of 603,550 men aged 20 and up. The 600,000, plus wives, children, the elderly, and the "mixed multitude" of non-Israelites would have numbered some 2 million people, compared with an entire Egyptian population in 1250 BCE of around 3 to 3.5 million. Marching ten abreast, and without accounting for livestock, they would have formed a line 150 miles long.

The Bible also claims they crossed the Red Sea in a night. It would take 50 hours walking at 3 mph for a column of people that long to cross one point, let alone cross some distance of the red Sea, even at the narrowest point. And the 3 mph is being generous, since children, elderly and livestock would not be able to keep up that pace.

Are you seeing the problem here?