(January 22, 2010 at 11:22 am)tackattack Wrote: beliefs aren't existant unto themselves no. The object of those beliefs can in fact be "real". It's deliniating your threshold for real vs make-believe as your threshold for rational and irrational.
Are you saying that beliefs themselves do not exist - only that those things believed in may!?
I disagree. Beliefs exist in the mind as a way of cherishing thoughts and ideas.
(January 22, 2010 at 11:22 am)tackattack Wrote: No my belief isn't delusional because it's observations are based from without instead of only self-introspective. You can pretend to be a Christian and equate that to a placebo for the spirit and when you actually experience the real thing you realize that there is no comparison between the placebo of feigned belief and being truly touched by the spirit.
Observation is subject to interpretation. Science attempts to get beyond interpretation by controlling variables and isolating causation, etc. I would love to hear how you seen signs of god without subjecting your opinion on those things.
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