(October 5, 2013 at 6:42 am)Stimbo Wrote:(October 5, 2013 at 6:36 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: That is the very claims of origin science. That it happened without God (atheistic). Also it must have been upward, because the first creature was not more complex than man. Nobody in all science claims that. I just call it what it is.
No, the very claims of origin science - aka abiogenesis, as distinct from, y'know, Genesis - are that it happened at all. If the evidence points to anything we would recognise as a creative intelligence, god or not, then that's what the conclusions will reflect. So far literally nothing even remotely suggests that whatever that initial spark might have been, if there even needed to be one, had a face.
The vast complexity of the life forms in the universe and the universe, with all its orderly laws, must be explained.
That in itself argues for God.
No explanation without God has explained it.
Therefore God must exist.
Next step is to identify God.
