(October 8, 2013 at 11:02 am)whateverist Wrote:(October 8, 2013 at 8:09 am)ChadWooters Wrote: As for the idea that nothing mental happens without a brain, none of you have presented any way that signification, qualia, or intentionality can be properly attributed to any physical process nor any means for excluding it from simple physical systems, like thermostats. Oh right, emergent properties arising out of complex systems...that's the pixie dust to which you cling. Poor sods.
Says the pot to the kettle. Meanwhile I can point to plenty of instances of operative minds where living, functional brains are present. Kindly point to even one instance of mental qualia sans a brain. What significance should we attribute to your inability to present even one instance of a mind apart from a brain? I suppose you want to claim that concluding no mind without a brain is as unfounded as your claim that minds require no brain.
Would you prefer that we conclude instead "still no minds without a brain"? Shall I enter that in my diary beside "the sun came up again today"?
Is your motivation for leaving the door open for disembodied minds your way of leaving room for God? Frankly I don't think you have to sweat the details. If you have direct experience of the mind of God why not just go with that?
Dualism is required for the existence of souls. No dualism, no soul.
He must continue to deny that mind is a result of brain, that mind evolved.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.