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[split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
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RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest?
(October 9, 2013 at 11:21 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Or, rather, not believe.

If you don't believe in God, a higher power, anything transcendent, eternal immaterial whatever you want to call it that is relevant to us beyond and/or within the physical universe then you believe the opposite of the existence of this. If you're not sure either way you make up your mind, not being sure doesn't win the argument. Claiming we can't know for certain won't work either as I'm just going to agree with you. So I think I have cut through line of argument meaning you'll have to defend your actual metaphysical belief, why you believe it and what you like about it. That's the part I'm interested in not the smoke screens you place around. The Sword of Christ will cut through all that obscurantism and flak and gets right to the heart the action.

Quote:There are no 'good reasons' to believe any god exists, not yours, not anyones. [quote]

Are there any good reasons to believe that this universe is all there is, that we came essentially from nothing or random chance coincidence, we're here for no purpose and we when we die there is nothing else? Is there a good reason to assume that all religious, spiritual, mystical experience is a delusion/hallucination and all religions are 100% false and a lie? I would like to see these arguments, the meat and gravy of it, the sustenance.


[quote]Yours is a position of faith (and there's nothing wrong with that on a personal level.

It would take more faith for me to be an atheist. (classic line). There is some truth to it though I don't see how a universe this complex or beings as complex as ourselves could be coincidental or unintentional. Blind natural forces at work without a goal or destination in mind. And certainly if you look at the impact God has had in human history, much for the good, you're saying this is a delusion of the human brain? Are you sure you're not fighting against the evidence?


Quote:Whatever makes you happy).


Right so it's a fantasy people entertain to be happy you believe this. Why do you believe this?


Quote:is a position of not believing your claims (which are based on faith).

Why are you believing the claims of materialist naturalism? You don't know these claims are true.

Quote:That is a virtue, not a vice.

Belief in God is a vice but pure physical materialism and naturalism is somehow a lofty virtuous thing? Is this a reaction against of the excesses of religious belief? But you know belief in God has inspired much good in the world as well right? It's not all Inquisitions and Crusades.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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[split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Sword of Christ - October 7, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by LastPoet - October 9, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by pocaracas - October 9, 2013 at 1:31 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by max-greece - October 9, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Brian37 - October 9, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Brian37 - October 9, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 9, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Brian37 - November 7, 2013 at 8:56 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Minimalist - October 9, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Ryantology - October 9, 2013 at 9:25 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Faith No More - October 9, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 9, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Faith No More - October 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Ryantology - October 10, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Ryantology - October 11, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Faith No More - October 11, 2013 at 5:14 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Ryantology - October 11, 2013 at 6:50 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Faith No More - October 11, 2013 at 11:24 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Chas - October 11, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Faith No More - October 11, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bucky Ball - October 11, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Faith No More - October 11, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bucky Ball - October 11, 2013 at 6:32 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 11, 2013 at 2:52 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Minimalist - October 11, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bad Writer - October 9, 2013 at 9:29 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by pocaracas - October 11, 2013 at 3:58 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by pocaracas - October 11, 2013 at 10:10 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Gilgamesh - October 11, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Dunno - October 13, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by downbeatplumb - October 14, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 16, 2013 at 4:36 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bob Kelso - October 16, 2013 at 9:01 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 17, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 17, 2013 at 3:00 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 17, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by FallentoReason - October 17, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bob Kelso - October 17, 2013 at 10:03 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Cinjin - October 17, 2013 at 3:05 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by max-greece - October 17, 2013 at 9:29 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by downbeatplumb - October 17, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by pocaracas - October 17, 2013 at 10:47 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Darwinian - October 17, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by downbeatplumb - October 20, 2013 at 9:30 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Darwinian - October 20, 2013 at 9:33 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by downbeatplumb - October 20, 2013 at 9:35 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by ManMachine - October 19, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Polaris - October 19, 2013 at 10:12 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Cinjin - October 20, 2013 at 12:59 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Polaris - October 24, 2013 at 9:24 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 20, 2013 at 3:28 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bad Wolf - October 19, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Darwinian - October 20, 2013 at 9:36 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Polaris - October 25, 2013 at 11:12 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Cato - October 25, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Polaris - October 25, 2013 at 11:42 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bob Kelso - October 25, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Owlix - October 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Brian37 - October 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Whateverist - October 25, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bob Kelso - October 25, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Polaris - October 25, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bob Kelso - October 26, 2013 at 12:13 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Owlix - October 26, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Polaris - October 26, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Bob Kelso - October 26, 2013 at 12:18 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Whateverist - November 1, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Whateverist - October 31, 2013 at 1:42 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Pretzel Logic - October 31, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Walking Void - November 2, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by justin - November 2, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Ayen - November 5, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Polaris - November 5, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - November 5, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - November 6, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - November 7, 2013 at 12:12 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by downbeatplumb - November 7, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Whateverist - November 7, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Whateverist - November 6, 2013 at 11:15 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Cyberman - November 5, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Whateverist - November 6, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Walking Void - November 8, 2013 at 8:50 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Whateverist - November 8, 2013 at 10:26 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Walking Void - November 8, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Walking Void - November 8, 2013 at 3:07 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Cyberman - November 8, 2013 at 3:12 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Walking Void - November 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Whateverist - November 8, 2013 at 9:07 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Esquilax - October 7, 2013 at 3:36 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Zazzy - October 7, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Bad Wolf - October 7, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Ryantology - October 9, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Chas - October 9, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Ryantology - October 9, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Chas - October 9, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Esquilax - October 8, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Esquilax - October 8, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Esquilax - October 9, 2013 at 4:13 am
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Tonus - October 9, 2013 at 6:06 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Tonus - October 9, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Esquilax - October 9, 2013 at 7:52 am
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Sword of Christ - October 9, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Esquilax - October 9, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance. - by Mister Agenda - November 7, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Bad Wolf - October 9, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Simon Moon - October 9, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by Esquilax - October 9, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Is It Hypocritical Of Me To Be Athiest? - by LastPoet - October 9, 2013 at 12:56 pm

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