RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
October 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2013 at 1:14 pm by snowtracks.)
(October 11, 2013 at 8:20 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:(October 11, 2013 at 12:25 am)snowtracks Wrote: maybe this would help: one's heaven and hell destiny is not determine by an intellectual decision about the existence of God, rather it's their deliberate rejection or acceptance of the truth clearly revealed to them.
Except, the truth that you speak of isn't clearly revealed.
Quote: if they determine they want independence from God by rejecting that truth, He gives them their wish.
I have not determined that I want independence from god, because to determine I wanted independence from god I would have to firstly accept he is real (which requires proof). I simply believe that there is no evidence for a god, as far as I'm concerned he is not real.
Quote: as an aside: the word 'torment' appears to actually mean 'restraint'. Those that have demonstrated the most evil on earth receive the most restrain. others have a different destiny since they accepted the truth.
OK. And what about the majority of people that have not "demonstrated the most evil on earth" ...AND... have not "accepted the truth"?
knowing the truth and deliberating rejecting the truth results in the 'unpardonable sin'. those that commit it are cut-off and find their eternal home in hell. there, the inhabitants that demonstrated the less earthly evil will have a corresponding less restraint remember, God's nature doesn't allow 'torment' (metaphoric language). Some people and demons desire more than anything else is freedom from God and the restraint imposed on them by their conscience. So God grants their wish and withdraws his influence.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.