Modal Argument: The Mind is Not the Brain

[Vincenzo Vinny G.]

She was a bit too rough on you.

But she is right, scientism isn't a meaningless insult. It is a pejorative, but it indicates a real belief system that is prevalent in atheist communities.

The question mark in my post meant that I didn't get her point, if she had one other than to call me a jackass. She's not very eloquent.

You claim with fervor that "scientism is a real belief system." Obviously there aren't many scientism churches around, so the idea is not common socially, I mean, If I were to ask the average man on the street what it meant, they wouldn't likely know, would they?

I have read the dictionary definition of scientism, and it seems silly to me, as I believe we all use the generic scientific rules of discovery every day without even noticing it. So evidently I don't get the point that you and apophenia are so passionate about.

Could you please explain the tenants and adherent draw that I don't see in this discussion. Are there really people who call themselves Scientivists that don't mean it in a generic support of real science? Well other than trolls of course..

Yeah I don't know why she would act like such a jackass either. Must be something in the water here. That said, I claim nothing "with fervor". Yes, there are no scientism churches. But people are adherents of scientism. Ie, they don't just think science is useful and it works. They go further, believing science is the ultimate source of knowledge. This is the kind of belief that used to be held among intellectuals during the fifties, except it was called "logical positivism". But it was self-refuting then and it is self-refuting now. It's irrational nonsense.

Which explains why so many atheists believe it.