(October 11, 2013 at 5:40 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote:(October 10, 2013 at 6:08 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I was being kind of silly, though it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when philosophy is put forth as a means to knowledge on the same level as science. Also, every time you say the word 'epistemology', a jstrodel gets his wings.
I was not being silly about theology, though. Theology is one of the least useful enterprises humans have ever invented.
I suggested, politely, that you were an idiot. Lest I be accused of stirring the shit without any good reason, let me explain why you are one.
Philosophy is not a singular monolith as you imagine in your mind, but comes in various strains. Analytical philosophy involves, typically, the rigorous application of logic and reason to the world around us, including knowledge derived from science. Unfortunately, Eastern philosophy and certain Continental traditions that are less rigorous also fall under the umbrella of philosophy.
Sadly, for ignoramuses such as yourself, when you think of a philosopher, you think of a man with a beard and elbow patches spouting bullshit akin to Heidegger or Derrida. But this is a simplistic stereotype that ignores the vast swath of analytical philosophers, whose work much of science depends on. These analytical philosophers often know as much about science as scientists. The difference is they don't do experiments, but study the published findings.
To reject philosophy as an equal to science as a source of knowledge is to thus reject logic as a source of knowledge. Which is a level of stupidity reserved for someone like you.
But it's especially ridiculous when you look at what happens to science when logic is forced out. It cannot function. Which goes to show, Ryan, your profound ignorance of the topics you profess to know of.
In short, these are some of the many reasons you are an idiot.
Name one philosopher that ever discovered anything useful.
The fact is the entire enterprise of philosophy is built on the house of cards that assumes reality is intuitive. That what appears to be logical to the human brain is the way reality works.
That has been proven to be false. Relativity, Uncertainty, maths of Dirac.
Philosophy is intellectual masturbation.
As far as "atheism built on ignorance goes" some of my classmates in the Divinity School are agnostics/atheists. We/they know more about your idiot cults and holy books than you do, Sword-Of-Jebus.
Jebus done tole ya :"Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
But you seem to know better than your Jebus, and don't need to do what he told you, cuz you're special. Very special.
meow
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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