RE: Modal Argument: The Mind is Not the Brain
October 15, 2013 at 10:40 am
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2013 at 10:42 am by Ben Davis.)
(October 15, 2013 at 9:36 am)bennyboy Wrote: Either way, the root is "theos." It's just the way words get crunched. To go back to the true ternary:Etymology isn't only concerned with accurate conjugation but also root, form, history & usage so...
a + theos + ism
1. (a + theos) + ism = atheos + ism = atheism (the belief or doctrine of no-God)
2. a + (theos + ism) = a + theism = atheism (the state of not being theistic)
This is a perfect ambiguity as far as I can tell, unless someone here really knows Greek conjugation rules deeply and can correct me.
Because 'atheos' is rooted from 'theos' there's a superior word for 'athe-ism' which also roots from 'theos': anti-theism (opposition to theism). Let's remember that 'atheos' was created to generalise & stereotype those who didn't believe in the Olympic pantheon, irrespective of whether there was belief in other deities involved or not. Therefore there's additional baggage in the word 'athe-ism' that there isn't in the word 'a-theism'. If we're looking for highly accurate descriptors/definitions and applying the strictest etymology, we should reject the word 'athe-ism' as being too ambiguous and stick to 'a-theism' and 'anti-theism'.
Quote:Anyway, I'm becoming more and more convinced that the weak form is the most pragmatic, at least in the States: it separates religious people from non-religious people (Stop ringing my fucking doorbell on Sunday morning, and go sell crazy somewhere else!), rather than engaging in a philosophical debate (I think there's no God. Why? Prove it. What's your reason? etc.)Indeed. That's because it's the strictest, most accurate definition of the word.
Quote:But I'd argue that weak atheism is more a political or social position, rather than a philosophical one.This is an argument that stems from the conflation of belief & knowledge and is exactly why I believe we should stick to the strictest definition of 'a-theism'. 'A-theism' doesn't contain any baggage, no political views, nothing. It's a simple statement that 'whatever my beliefs or value-systems are, theism is not amongst them'. It's not a statement on one's claims to knowledge in regard to specific 'god hypotheses'.
Quote:In a philosophical thread, I think people have to accept and accommodate an expectation for a hard atheist position. Responding to a modal argument with "Show me the proof, asshole," isn't a very good philosophical argument.IMHO, It's possibly the best way to show 'a love of wisdom'

Sum ergo sum