Strong Atheism starts from faith

[tackattack]

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"faith is the abandonment of logic and reason and the subjugation of ones mind and true self "

Utterly ridiculus. Faith is belief without evidence. Clearly atheists don't allow for intangible evidence like intuition, spirit, visions, miracles or historically unfounded documents. They allow for mathmatical proofs of scientific theories though. Clearly the type of evidence required is variable and in my opinion should be relative to the subject of proof.

Intuition is a real phenomenon based upon assertions that one feels or an incomplete model that one has built up by any means necessary. Sometimes it is right, sometimes it is wrong. Critical thought is right in point out how unreliable intuition is - it isn't just "Atheists".

Like self produced manias and highs, visions are just as suspect as the ones induced through drugs. Historically unfounded documents exist in bargain bookstores, with names like Twilight. After all, it takes place in a historical time (modern day) and is unfounded because it is fiction.

The rest of your post, I will leave to someone else. There are simply too many ridiculous statements for me to confront, but I can call you out on drawing a link between fiction and mathematical proofs.

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OK then Syn, How is your faith in mathmatical formulae different from my faith in existance in God then, please?

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Do you not see the inanity of your position? There is no logical reason to believe in a god when you know full well that the very idea of god or gods is a product of mans own mind.

"Utterly ridiculous. Faith is belief without evidence."

tackattack, You don't see anything wrong with your above statement, seriously? I do not consider my "hatred" for religious belief as biased since I don't hate religious belief. I simply have a hard time understanding how someone who is shown plainly how superficial those beliefs are cling so tenaciously to a lie. My argument is based on the history of religion itself and not only on objective or subjective evidence and research. Mankind has always worshiped something, or someone, at one time or another. Some people will attribute this to a yet to be proven "god gene" or some other nonsense, but history has shown that religion grew out of mans fears and ignorance of the world he lived.

Most of our oldest religions were the worship of nature itself this included, earth, trees, animals, the sky, the stars, etc. later we gave these very natural things names and personalities (polytheism), then we decided to put all of these gods together and make him one god (monotheism). We have worshipped animals, idols made by our own hands, rocks, and even other men. The history of religion itself attest to it's very mundane and human origins.

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