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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(October 18, 2013 at 7:21 am)Sword of Christ Wrote:
Quote:You can't take the creation of the universe and simply attribute it to some imaginary figure, what a giant pile of lazy shit that is.
Not as lazy as saying "The universe just exists for no reason and it exists the way it is because it's a coincidence of blind luck".

I agree that to claim "it was this" with no further explanation or determination to learn more is lazy. It's no less so for claims of god than for claims of "blind luck." The people who are not lazy and who are not satisfied with "it just is" are the ones who gather knowledge and understanding and try to pass it on to others who will continue to advance that understanding. As theists often note, a lot of scientists and researchers of the past, who made important and significant discoveries, were believers in god. Which is to say, they were not likely to be biased against finding god in the cosmic machine.

And yet they haven't. The non-lazy people, even when they were not keen on eliminating god from the picture, discovered a universe that works just fine without god. The continuing advancement of knowledge and understanding has moved us further in that direction, to the point that theists have moved god into his own pocket dimension from which he only peeks out when he's sure no one is going to spot him. He no longer resides on top of a mountain. He no longer lingers above the dome of the sky. He no longer uses the planet as his footstool. He no longer wanders about in heaven. He now keeps to himself in his undetectable castle in his undetectable universe with its undetectable entrances to this one, and occasionally causes condensation to form the image of the Virgin Mary upon a kitchen window on a chilly autumn morning.

Seems to me as if he's gotten quite lazy himself.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer. - by Tonus - October 18, 2013 at 8:39 am

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