RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 18, 2013 at 1:11 pm
(October 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:(October 18, 2013 at 11:47 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I was born an atheist.
You weren't born an atheist you just had other other things to get on with at the time like learning to walk, talk and shit properly and you had to get this out the way before tackling the deeper issues.
I was born with no concept or belief in any sort of deity.
I was born a de facto atheist. You are incorrect.
(October 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Once you were at a more informed state of development you made your choice.
I am continually making choices, continually evaluating claims on a myriad of gods, continually finding them wanting. Pragmatism, look it up.
(October 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
I do not seek to judge the choices of others...unlike some people in this conversation.
(October 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:Quote:You've never responded to this statement with anything coherent, rather, equating being born with no belief or concept in any deity to being born unable to be toilet trained (subjective, technically shitting yourself is still being toilet trained, just not to our subjective standard).
Like I said you deal with the basics first then your place in the greater scheme of things and your relationship to God later. Or you decide God God doesn't exist and is some kind of a myth still have an active choice to make.
Wrong again.
I lack any sort of concept of a 'god'. I've never heard a coherent definition that I can conceptualise or agree with since day 0 of my life till now.
(October 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:Quote:So, in effect, you're wrong. Everytime you post, you post from a demonstrably incorrect premise, which means most of what you type based on that premise is...well...probably wrong.
If you want to challenge atheism you really have to go straight in for the assertions and assumptions atheists like to make such as "I was born an atheist" or "lack of belief" or "default position". These may as well be doctrines and dogmas that shore up your faith in the belief that you are right and theists are wrong/deluded.
You are wrong for the third time in this one post.
It is laughable that you would equate me stating a fact that I lacked a belief or concept of any sort of deity when I was born to it being a dogma/doctrine. This is nonsensical and I can only assume you've taken leave of your senses.
I have no religious faith. You don't believe me? It doesn't matter one bit, doesn't change the fact that I am correct, and you are not
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