RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm by Lemonvariable72.)
(October 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:(October 18, 2013 at 11:47 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I was born an atheist.
You weren't born an atheist you just had other other things to get on with at the time like learning to walk, talk and shit properly and you had to get this out the way before tackling the deeper issues. Once you were at a more informed state of development you made your choice.
Quote:You've never responded to this statement with anything coherent, rather, equating being born with no belief or concept in any deity to being born unable to be toilet trained (subjective, technically shitting yourself is still being toilet trained, just not to our subjective standard).
Like I said you deal with the basics first then your place in the greater scheme of things and your relationship to God later. Or you decide God God doesn't exist and is some kind of a myth still have an active choice to make.
Quote:So, in effect, you're wrong. Everytime you post, you post from a demonstrably incorrect premise, which means most of what you type based on that premise is...well...probably wrong.
If you want to challenge atheism you really have to go straight in for the assertions and assumptions atheists like to make such as "I was born an atheist" or "lack of belief" or "default position". These may as well be doctrines and dogmas that shore up your faith in the belief that you are right and theists are wrong/deluded.
Okay then deomnstrate that I was not born atheist or that I do not lack belief.
(October 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:(October 18, 2013 at 11:47 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I was born an atheist.
You weren't born an atheist you just had other other things to get on with at the time like learning to walk, talk and shit properly and you had to get this out the way before tackling the deeper issues. Once you were at a more informed state of development you made your choice.
Quote:You've never responded to this statement with anything coherent, rather, equating being born with no belief or concept in any deity to being born unable to be toilet trained (subjective, technically shitting yourself is still being toilet trained, just not to our subjective standard).
Like I said you deal with the basics first then your place in the greater scheme of things and your relationship to God later. Or you decide God God doesn't exist and is some kind of a myth still have an active choice to make.
Quote:So, in effect, you're wrong. Everytime you post, you post from a demonstrably incorrect premise, which means most of what you type based on that premise is...well...probably wrong.
If you want to challenge atheism you really have to go straight in for the assertions and assumptions atheists like to make such as "I was born an atheist" or "lack of belief" or "default position". These may as well be doctrines and dogmas that shore up your faith in the belief that you are right and theists are wrong/deluded.
Okay then deomnstrate that I was not born atheist or that I do not lack belief.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
